History & Lore: First discovered in Poland during the 1500's they were first thought to be a mad man's visions and quickly became shoved into legend and cautionary stories to tell your children. Whenever anyone claimed to have seen one they were laughed at and dismissed as mad, however insistent they were of what they'd seen.
However much people saw no reason to believe in this creature, closer to the 1800's an expedition was launched to search the remove forests of Poland. They did find a small herd of Ogromny and quickly caught the smallest they could find, foals that they separated from their dams. Bringing them back home they quickly put the foals into circuses and freak shows where they attracted large crowds, eager to see this mythical being.
In 1920 the authorities shut down any operations involving Ogromny and declared them state property, protected no matter if they were tame or wild. As a result of the Nazi's invading Poland, 1940 saw an official registry being created to monitor and further the breeding of Ogromny as a potential weapon due to their size. This breeding program also saw the creatures being sent to Germany and it's allies, forests being stripped of any Ogromnies for shipment. After the war any Ogromny that'd been sent from Poland was kept by the countries that'd received them, any private persons or companies now allowed to buy and sell Ogromnies.
In present time the population has decreased drastically due to lack of maintenance and loss of natural habitats for any remaining wild beings.
Physical Description: The Ogromny's most obvious feature is their size. Exclusive to the stallions are a heavily crested neck with thick lower legs, the mares sport thinner necks and legs. During their early years in captivity they showed a remarkable ability to, despite their massive size and weight, be quick movers and could navigate forest floors easily.
Both stallions and mares have long heads with prominent roman noses, small nostrils and ears. Their eyes are far apart, set high and deep.
Their manes and tails are always curly, often several shades lighter than the body even in suspected bays. They're also always kept long as per tradition.
There is no genetics research done on Ogromnies to determine their genetic similarities or differences with standard horses though they seem to follow the same genotypes and so their coats are named accordingly. A difference worth noting is that instead of the names cremello/perlino/smoky cream, they're all simply referred to as double cream.
What little research has been done has shown that champagne, frame overo and rabicano aren't present as they're understood in standard horses. However dun and roan are very common as well as splash white, as it was popular in the Ogromnies used in circuses. No greys have been recorded. Pangare isn't unusual and is quite obvious when present.
TY Gypsy Spirit
Owned by Marc Sanders at Sliding K Ranch
You mentioned in your challenge entry that TY Gypsy Spirit comes from your grandfather’s farm Tybar Ranch, would you mind explaining a bit the evolution of Tybar Ranch into the current Sliding K Ranch?
When my grandfather Rian Swift first began Tybar Ranch, his love, heart, and soul were focused on the mustangs just outside the ranch...the Sandwash Basin herd. He had grown up riding out in the Basin and when the first round up of his time happened. He was right there watching as a teenager, it's how he got his hands on the founding stallion whom I still have today, Tattooed Romeo, and our founding mustang mare Juilet. These were the beginnig of all things mustangs for Tybar Ranch. When he was a boy it had the name of Shiver Creek Ranch. As he got older and his father passed it onto him he changed it to Tybar. Tybar Ranch then became North Fork Ranch as my grandfather aged and passed it onto my father. Who ventured into other stock type horses and sadly let the mustang trade dwindle into almost nothing and his focus became Quarter Horses and Paint horses, which truthfully are not my thing all together but I've kept around what we have as I've grown up with these horses and love them as much as the mustangs. We moved the entire ranch and family to Wyoming, lived there on the new property until I was 16...that's when disaster struck. I was helping my mom cook dinner, dad was with the ranch hands bringing the horses down from the mountian pastures when a storm rolled in. There was a ton of lightning, and several times the barn was hit...the barn,the hay barn, everything, including half the house burnt to the ground that night. We got all the horses out and onto the lower pastures. But dad was done. He was going to sell the ranch before my older brother Treyvor said he would take over until I was 21, then it was all on me. When my dad and grandad agreed Treyvor asked me to rename the ranch and we moved about 140 miles deeper into Wyoming. We rebuilt, and restarted. I decided to name the ranch Sliding K Ranch because Reining was my sport, and my middle name is Kane. I also pretty much slid into the ownership role of a large horse ranch at a young age.
As Gypsy is a mustang, her temperament and aptitude for competition were a mystery when she was caught and trained. Could you explain the draw towards her and horses like her as opposed to breeds like the American Quarter Horse that have known pedigrees. How does training for Gypsy differ from captive-born horses? Does it differ at all?
When a mustang comes to us either from a rancher having an issue with them, a rescue being to full, we visit the auctions and one catches our heart, or even if someone calls us telling us there's one injured somewhere. We take the time to watch and learn every small aspect about the horse. What makes it spook, what calms it down. What causes it's tail to flick in annoyance. It's all about building a ground relationship with the animal and working with them from the ground before ever trying to get up on their back. Horses bred for the show ring are always around people, so to them we are their bread and butter. But to a mustang, we're a predator, new, strange, and scary. New mustangs brought onto our ranch are paired wih other mustangs that are already trained and know we aren't there to harm them but care for them. So not only do they learn from the other horses that we are okay, they learn from how we do things. I feel I have a stronger bond with my mustang horses over my quarter horses simply because I have to earn every tiny aspect of that animals trust versus a horse that was bred right into the world of being cared for by humans. They expect it, mustangs don't. They have a wild fire inside of them that if you train them right, they keep.
We gentle our horses, we start with standing on the outside of the small paddocks, the round rings, their stalls and runs. They learn by following the other horses in for feeding time or treats at the fence, once they've gotten used to us from the paddock then we move inside with them. Normally I wander around with my son's big gelding Kodi, checking fence lines, going to the creek that runs through one of the big pastures for a swim or just to read a book or fish. I don't go near the horses, I let them come to me. I start the training in the paddock, slight pats here and there letting them chew or sniff my hair or whatever they want to do. Mustangs are mutts, they're the outcasts of the horse world and everyone sees them either as trouble or not worth their time to train right...they're like me. The black sheep of the horse world and we all deserve a chance to show the world our real worth and that just because we don't have a show stopping pedigree doesn't mean we can't make it to the top of the food chain.
What is Gypsy like back home? Any fun quirks or habits?
Haha, Gypsy oh man. This little girl, when my grandfather first found her as a little yearling filly, from what the vet said, she gave him a run for his money. She had been terrorizing riders out on one of the trails. She would chase their horses down, spook them, get them riled up and then disappear without so much as a broken twig to tell where she went. It's how she got her name really. She still does these silly things at times. Once she was trained she was sent off to her adoptive home so we lost a lot of time with her ourselves, but the owner returned her to us for personal reasons and her training began back up. She loves to take off with her saddle blanket or halter. Before the show she actually grabbed the saddle blanket from inside the trailer and took off with it. She's playful and very.....what is the word I want to use for her. Protective. When we brought her back to Sliding K Ranch, she didn't want anything to do with any of the other riders or trainers...farm hands were a joke to her, she spooked them a lot. Me though, she came right up at the paddock and put her head over my shoulder. She nips my hair right at the nape of my neck first thing in the morning when I'm doing my feeding rounds. She doesn't much like black cats, we have one currently missing its tail and several that won't go near her stall even if being carried because she's chased them or snapped or some other mean spirited thing she can think of. Dogs, on the other hand, she loves. She drives my pittie insane by nuzzling and licking the top of his head. Her treat of choice is apple pie, found this out when I had lunch in the paddock with the mustangs one day, she nosed into my lunch pail and ate only my pie, so now I keep one made in the fridge at the barn just for her.
The Austrian Warmblood Circle is slowly preparing itself to host it's first show! While the rules are in the works I am happy to leak that it will be a movement show so get your guys all cleaned up.
Date of show is not set in stone yet but should be next month
Every month, PS hosts a themed photo challenge series open to everyone. The aim is to inspire members to experiment, have fun, and grow their skills. There are automatic rewards for participating, as well as bonus awards and cash prizes for judges commendations.
For anyone unaware, the Gypsy Vanner Society has a channel on slack. This is a good place to be to offer input and suggestions as the GVS grows and develops. I plan to offer random imports and breedings here on occasion and encourage other members to do so as well!
GVS Promotional Auction & Raffle
Those of you who are in the Slack channel know that I'm planning a promotional auction and raffle. I will be auctioning off four Gypsy Vanner foals and a pair of foundations (who will be auctioned together as a pair), and raffling off another four foundations. These will be done two at a time to make it easier for me to keep track of. I hope to have the first auction up by the weekend.
A studbook for the group should arrive within the next few months. I am still in the process of working out the details, but here are a few things you can expect:
• All Equus registered Gypsy Vanner stallions are eligible to be put on the studbook. The studbook will also allow Shires, Clydesdales, and Drum Horses who are at least 25% (1/4th) Gypsy Vanner.
• Equus Registered mares will be able to be listed on the stubook under the same standards. However, to add a touch of realism I encourage you only to list mares who you are not actively breeding yourself and to take them off the studbook for the rest of the Equus year if they are bred. This is not a rule and will not be monitored.
• Part-bred Gypsy Vanners may be listed with the requirement that they must be no less than 50% Gypsy Vanner and are registered on Equus as a breed that allows Gypsy Vanners as an outcross (Show Cob, Georgian Grande) or a Draft-type Grade.
• Changes to the studbook may be made at any time. This includes adding and removing horses, changing fees, etc.
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Members are able to submit any of their horses to this studbook. Ideally, however, they would put their horses of remarkable colour up for stud. Breedings will be conducted member-to-member and should be discussed either in the #rcbl channel on slack or in a private chat. Members can additionally indicate if they'd like their horses to be open for BIY or Traditional (Or both!), whether or not this affects the price, and if they'd like their horses to be open to the general public via this studbook, or just RCBL members.
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