Accepted The following pony breeds may now enter flat racing:
-Welsh Mountain Pony (Section A)
-Welsh Pony (Section B )
-British Sport and Riding Ponies
-Swedish Riding Ponies
-Grade (Pony) and International Sport Ponies, if their breed percentage is realistic for racing (will vary vase by case)
Thank you all! Any other pony breeds will need their own post to get caps in flat racing.
Edited their outcross list to all breeds that you listed + Appendix Quarter Horses and Anglo-Arabians, for simplicity of blood percentages. Also listed Australian Stock Horse as a mandatory parent. Thank you for your research!
I have made a note on the MBL to specify that Anglo-Arab outcrosses should be TB x Arab only, however I will not be removing CIAA from the outcrosses accepted by Trakehners on autoreg. Section I CIAA are perfectly acceptable outcrosses to Trakehners as far as I can tell, and Equus does not distinguish between the tiers. I am aware that this leaves a 'loophole' for people to breed WBFSH member blood into Trakehners, as Autoreg does not read grandparent breeds, but considering this is a fictional setting and given the small numbers of CIAA on Equus, most of whom comply to AHA standards as you've pointed out, there is no need to restrict the entire studbook from being accepted in my opinion.
I expect most members with 2nd+ gen CIAA Anglos with WBFSH blood will read the MBL with it's new clarification and realize their horses are not able to realistically produce Trakehners- however if they still choose to breed Trakehners with those horses, the system will not stop them. Likewise, any members who are concerned about the purity of their lines will need to do their research on horses they purchase or breed to.
I'd ask you to reconsider what you think to be a major change. Doing this would require a re-examination of the show history of a lot of horses in these breeds; any horse you are saying is a coldblood breed that has points in a Pony version of a sport would have to be moved one-by-one by staff members to the horse version of it for simplicity, we would need to create a new breed, the Grade (Coldblood) which is quite a task in of itself. This list you've compiled would also need to be expanded to include more breeds than this; the Coldblood Trotter strains are an obvious example, which are currently lumped into Draft. Expanding that list would involve me spending quite a few hours of reading down the Master Breed List and considering every heavy warmblood, large/heavy pony, and light draft breed we have and deciding if they match our new definition of Coldblood. If it were as simple as spending a few seconds swapping out the Group name for a handful of breeds, we would have dozens of groups, but as Elsie said, we have our broad, simple types for a reason.
Anyone who is interested in creating horses of these breeds has the internet at their fingertips; it's not difficult to do a Google search of 'Finnhorse' and see that they're a stocky, heavy breed, or to see that Fjords are pony-sized but heavy with horse proportions. For Equus purposes, the broad but imperfect breed groups we currently have serve us well, and to change them would require more work than it's really ultimately worth.
I'm going to lock this now- thank you for your interest in improving Equus.
This horse is an outlier- hence why he had the article written about him in the first place. He is an incredible horse, but one example of a cob clearing a Puissance wall is not enough evidence to prove the breed as a whole can do it competitively. Even this cob didn't win the class- the winning horse jumped 10cm higher than this. To get breed approval for a sport like this, I'd like to see several examples of a breed doing it competitively, preferably in the highest levels and successfully. Feel free to post a new appeal if you find new evidence.
Likely because both of his parents were listed as AQH- once an Appendix has been advanced to full status, their children are treated as pure AQH.
I'm going to lock this now- as stated, these outcrosses are strictly prohibited by the AQHA, and their method of advancing registration status would be very hard to replicate in full on Equus. Thank you all.
I'm pretty torn on this one but since this horse is almost certainly true roan, I'm going to say yes for it- however if anything contradictory comes up (like for say he is eventually tested for roan and is found to not carry it) Roan will be removed from IDs since I can't find a single other RID who appears classic roan. One of his fillies who is registered as grey only has him and a mare listed as chestnut for parents, so I'm not 100% convinced he isn't a type of oddball grey. However, until proven otherwise, roan is accepted in IDs.