Colors and Outcrosses Missing From Automatic Registration


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    If a breed was accepted to carry a color or accept an outcross on the old Master Breed List that is now denied by automatic registration, please post here with the problem. Evidence and screenshots aren't needed, just let me know what's missing. :slight_smile:

    This is not a thread to request new colors or outcrosses for breeds, only to report missing information; new colors need to be requested in their own thread with evidence.

    **Breed:**
    **Missing Color or Outcross Information:** 
    **Any other info:** 
    


  • My post here was approved for additional Knabstrupper and knabstrupper sport horse out-crosses including KWPN, Hanoverian and Swedish Warmblood. I have horses registered at the moment with this outcrossing. Can post examples again if needed.

    https://forum.equus.community/topic/1365/knabstrupper-out-crosses-kwpn-and-swedish-warmblood

    Nikki C: All WBFSH members have been added to both, thank you!



  • Breed: Knabstrupper (Sport Horse)
    Missing Color or Outcross Information: Outcross / Thoroughbred
    Any other info: The MBL says "Usually Trakehner, Frederiksborger, Shagya Arab, Arab, Anglo-Arab, Danish Warmblood, Oldenburg, Holstener (and pure TBs that are registered as any of the above), but any WBFSH studbook is permitted."

    Auto Reg. is not currently letting me register my Knabbys of partial Thoroughbred blood, of which I have several. Now, what I am positive the MBL is referring to is when stud owners license their TB stallions with euro studbooks and under that given book, the horse gets licensed as that WB breed. Which taking a pure TB x TB on ES and registering it as a warmblood breed seems impractical (and is personally an undesireable thing to do to my TBs). I also would imagine that it would probably cause further issues with Auto reg and really at the end of the day liscensing a TB with a warmblood studbook does not change he fact that physically you are breeding a TB to a Knabstrupper for a pure Knabstrupper.

    Nikki C: I have changed the registration system to allow outcrossing to pure TBs in any breed that accepts all WBFSH studbooks for the sake of simplicity - but for future reference, this was really more of a new request than fixing missing information.



  • Breed: Shetland Pony
    Missing Color or Outcross Information: Splash
    Any other info: Pulled from this older MBL

    I think I have it right this time :blush: :fingers_crossed:

    Nikki C: Fixed, thank you!



  • Breed: Mustang
    Missing Color or Outcross Information: Frame Overo
    Any other info: I can also provide some examples of RL overo mustangs if needed.

    Nikki: Sorted, thank you!



  • Breed: North Swedish Draft
    Missing Color or Outcross Information: Dun
    Any other info: I can't say to 100% that it was acceptable in the old MBL but I have a NSD registered as mouse dun so I assume it was at some point ? My horse that's registered is ID#25937 Ene-Blacken L. Please let me know if it wasn't acceptable earlier and I'll post a request thread with provided evidence in the other section instead :slight_smile:



  • Breed: Hanoverian
    Missing Color or Outcross Information: Outcross / German Sport Horse (DSP/RPSI)
    Any other info: A breeding program of Hannoveraner Verband. At point 7 they mention the "Deutsches Sportpferd" (which basically is the German Sport Horse) as a permitted outcross (info supplied by lovely @Annalena-Voigt).



  • Breed: Finnish Warmblood
    Missing Color or Outcross Information: Outcross / Irish Sport Horse
    Any other info: The Master Breed List lists ISH as an acceptable outcross in FWBs, but Autoreg gave the following response: "Declined:
    The cross between Irish Sport Horse and Finnish Warmblood cannot produce a Finnish Warmblood because Finnish Warmblood doesn't accept Irish Sport Horse as an outcross."


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    @Therese-Lind said in Colors and Outcrosses Missing From Automatic Registration:

    Breed: North Swedish Draft
    Missing Color or Outcross Information: Dun
    Any other info: I can't say to 100% that it was acceptable in the old MBL but I have a NSD registered as mouse dun so I assume it was at some point ? My horse that's registered is ID#25937 Ene-Blacken L. Please let me know if it wasn't acceptable earlier and I'll post a request thread with provided evidence in the other section instead :slight_smile:

    This color wasn't accepted on the old MBL. It's likely that your horse was registered in 2.0 when color registration was a bit more lax than it is now. Please post a new evidence thread.

    @Judith-Montgomery said in Colors and Outcrosses Missing From Automatic Registration:

    Breed: Hanoverian
    Missing Color or Outcross Information: Outcross / German Sport Horse (DSP/RPSI)
    Any other info: A breeding program of Hannoveraner Verband. At point 7 they mention the "Deutsches Sportpferd" (which basically is the German Sport Horse) as a permitted outcross (info supplied by lovely @Annalena-Voigt).

    @Puck-Cantrell said in Colors and Outcrosses Missing From Automatic Registration:

    This is not a thread to request new colors or outcrosses for breeds, only to report missing information; new colors need to be requested in their own thread with evidence.

    Please post a new evidence thread in the correct section of the forum with sufficient evidence to prove a need to allow a new outcross.


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    @Alexander-Westerberg said in Colors and Outcrosses Missing From Automatic Registration:

    Breed: Finnish Warmblood
    Missing Color or Outcross Information: Outcross / Irish Sport Horse
    Any other info: The Master Breed List lists ISH as an acceptable outcross in FWBs, but Autoreg gave the following response: "Declined:
    The cross between Irish Sport Horse and Finnish Warmblood cannot produce a Finnish Warmblood because Finnish Warmblood doesn't accept Irish Sport Horse as an outcross."

    Fixed, thank you!



  • Breed: German Sport Horse (DPS/RPSI)
    Missing Color or Outcross Information: Outcross / British Sport Horse
    Any other info: I checked this site and there is 'Sport Horse Breeding of Great Britain (SHBGB)' listed as member of WBFSH


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    @Eric-Sobeck said in Colors and Outcrosses Missing From Automatic Registration:

    Breed: German Sport Horse (DPS/RPSI)
    Missing Color or Outcross Information: Outcross / British Sport Horse
    Any other info: I checked this site and there is 'Sport Horse Breeding of Great Britain (SHBGB)' listed as member of WBFSH

    This is represented by the British Warmblood on Equus. British Sporthorses on Equus are only required to be 1/4th Warmblood and do not qualify for WBFSH breeding.



  • Breed: Dutch Warmblood (Riding Horse)
    Missing Color or Outcross Information: Outcross / Selle Fran├žais
    Any other info: Autoreg rejected



  • Breed: Trakehner
    Missing Color or Outcross Information: Outcross / Dutch Warmblood (Riding Horse)
    Any other info: Autoreg rejected. Mother (Trakehner) is not registered on the site, and father Dutch Warmblood (Riding Horse). What to do in this situation?


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