Bluegrass Equine Auction - CHATTER - Youngstock Auction Entries Close Aug 1



  • Hello All!

    I'm very excited to say that we are moving forward with the "LIVE BIDDING" Auctions on Slack.
    You can find our primary post under the SALES>Auction thread. That post has received a number of updates and is the place to go if you wonder how it's going to work, what the deadline dates are, etc.

    BUT I wanted to add this thread here in Discussion - well, because there are things that need to be discussed.

    First, I want to welcome Siri Kane to the Auction house - I am delighted to have the help. We will most probably need at least one other person to assist if there are any volunteers send me a note through the forum or slack.

    Second, We will be compiling a list of players that would like to function as independent agents. You bid for people who can't attend. The list will be provided on the main Auction thread - so if you're a buyer looking for an agent - that's where you'll see who's available.

    Third: We have this brief survey -
    https://forms.gle/PSE4Vxrev5z3gfu36
    If you could take a minute - we'd like to try and get an idea of how many horses we'll be auctioning off (My goal is @ 20 of each grouping - and I'm estimating (this is a huge guess) - that each grouping will take 1-1 1/2 hours - but until we run an auction - that is just a guess.
    So we're leaning toward a 3 day auction - Day 1 Weanlings, Day 2 Yearlings, Day 3 2-3 Year Olds
    Weigh in on your days and times of choice ....

    I talked to Siri yesterday about an idea that would give us a chance to do a trial run on the auction. Once I hear back regarding the post I sent to be reviewed - we'll fill you in on the details and hopefully get started on that little side project as well. I hope you're going to be as excited about it as I am!



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    Mustang Makeover Live Auction and CHALLENGE
    You pull into the gravel parking lot, the horse trailer you’re towing bouncing across a rut causing the chains to jingle as they bounce against each other. Your tires crunch across the gravel and a cloud of dust rises behind you in your wake. You park and turn off the truck. When you open the door the heat and humidity envelope you and you're instantly sweating in the oppressive heat. The air is thick with humidity and smothering. The smell of horses and horse manure fills the air – ah, the sweet smells of home. The sounds of horses fill the air – whinnies, neighs, squeals, stomping feet, and the rattle of cattle panel fencing. Mares and foals call out for each other, Stallions call for their bands. You head toward the entrance of the fairgrounds and join the crowds here for the Wild Horse Auction. You're swept along in the throng toward the livestock pens to look over the horses you’ve marked in the dog eared and worn auction catalog gripped tightly in your hand.

    As you pass through the crowded concessions area you promise yourself a treat before you leave – fried churros, a footlong corndog, maybe a funnel cake. Your tummy growls with anticipation. It was a long drive to get here and it will take longer going home. There are huge tubs filled with ice and complimentary bottle water placed all over the grounds and you grab a couple of bottles from the nearest tub as you continue to the horse pens.

    Taking a sip of the ice cold water, you scan the area for the pen you're looking for... There! Of course, in the farthest corner of the lot. There’s a big crowd surrounding the pen and inside it are 20-30 horses. Four year old wild horses; mares, stallions, geldings – American Indian Horses, Mustangs, Kigers, Nokotas, Chincotegue Ponies (HERE) ...

    You spot one, then two of your favorites from the catalog. There’s three more that you’ve got your eye on. But you’ll only be able to take one home. (Only one horse per participant)

    A guy with a mike steps up next to the pen. “If you’re here for the Mustang Makeover Auction head on over to the bidding arena. We’re about to get started.”

    Excitement and anticipation course through your body. You’re about to embark on a year long journey that will pit you and your wild horse against the other participants and the horses they take home.

    Winners will be determined based on the number of points earned during regular participation in Equus shows. (As recorded on the Leaderboads > Points Earned this Year.) In addition there will be a random “roll of the dice” at the end of each season which will give your horse a boost or a set back depending on your horse’s personality. Personalities will be unveiled AFTER you get your horse home.

    Are you ready to join us? Are you ready to take on the First Annual YEAR LONG MUSTANG MAKEOVER CHALLENGE? (4 mths=1 game year)

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    I have to say guys, I'm really excited with this challenge and I hope that you will be too!
    This is just an unofficial challenge - not affiliated with Equus.
    In addition to be a lot of fun, this will also give us a chance to trial run the LIVE BIDDING AUCTIONS

    We have some details to work out here on the "DISCUSSION" Board for the challenge first- We'll get things figured out and the plan is to start showing these horses AUGUST 1st.

    Auction will be July 25th or 26th
    Auction Catalog will be released July 18

    But here's the thing. We need YOU to make this happen.

    1st. How many want to participate?

    2nd. How many horses can we get donated? (4 year old Foundation "Feral" Breeds - The tentative list is above, I am open to adding other breeds - that's one of our discussion topics.) - Another discussion topic would be do we limit the number of participants? Do we make sure we have enough horses for everyone or do we go a couple short so a few people miss out? (If it's going to be an annual event, maybe it's a little hard to get in?)

    Also, Creators will name their donated horses ... and I would like them all to share the same prefix or suffix - I think it'll be easier when we're checking the other leaderboards to find them - and I like the idea of being able to see at a glance - oh that horse was part of the Mustang Makeovers (don't know what it will be MM Mustang Makeover, BLM Bureau of Land Management....) Creators don't mention here what you would be donating as we want all the horses to be unveiled in the Auction Catalog July 18th

    3rd. I'm thinking the money raised in the auction will be set aside and used as PRIZE MONEY for the TOP 5
    In addition I'd love to have some donated CC to offer as well - for the winners Top 10 as well as something for all participants.

    1. Each horse will compete in 2 Disciplines (for the most opportunity at earning points. Those points will be gathered from the Leaderboards. In addition we'll use Random.Org to give each horse a random boost/set back at the end of each season based on the horse's personality.

    Horse-anility will be revealed AFTER you take your horse home and will be based on Parelli - Red, Blue, Purple and Yellow personalities. We'll roll a number 1-10 for each personality type .... if its EVEN its a +=BOOST, if its ODD its a -=SETBACK.

    We hope you will also take advantage of the horse-anility to give us some regular updates/stories on your horse in the challenge thread. A certain number of points should be allowed to be gained here with these updates - How many? Up for discussion. Maybe 5 - You get 1 point for each "Seasonal" update = 4 and if you post all 4 you get a bonus 1 for a total of 5. - Not a game changer, but could be a tie breaker!

    At the end of the year the horse with the most points wins. We'll have a Leaderboard on our Challenge thread.

    So!
    What do you think? I'd love to see this become an annual event



  • 50 Views and NO ONE wants to participate?
    Sigh

    If we can't get any horses donated....
    We could charge a donated feral horse as the price to participate...
    With those horses being the auctioned horses...



  • I think I did not understand what you need. Do they need someone to donate "wild" horses? I've seen some makeover videos and I think that's the idea, right?

    I think, what you propose is to auction some wild horses and that the bidders have in mind to do a training with them. Is it like that?



  • @Irene-Duarte

    Yes, that's part of it.

    We will start off with an auction - players who want to participate in the makeover will buy a horse at the wild horse auction.
    (We do need donations of horses to be the wild horses - specific breeds are listed above.
    If we aren't able to get enough donations we could have the players that want to participate donate a horse in order to "pay to play.")

    The horses will participate in the regular Equus shows and earn points just like all the other horses - except we will keep track and be competing against the others in the challenge.


  • Development Committee

    I believe we've had some mustang makeover challenges hosted before with little follow through/interest. I'd be curious to see how this goes. Personally, I'm not into mustangs and the whole thing, but I love to see what people come up with.

    For the mustang auctions; people are giving you the horses for free so you can auction them off and people are paying for them? Do the creators get any sort of compensation out of that or is the auction not really an auction?



  • It's what I thought, then. I can donate some horses (it is possible with personalized marks). I will contact you by chat when I have some results. At a minimum, I want to offer three horses.



  • @Octavia-Ryland said in Bluegrass Equine Auction - Opinions Needed:

    I believe we've had some mustang makeover challenges hosted before with little follow through/interest. I'd be curious to see how this goes. Personally, I'm not into mustangs and the whole thing, but I love to see what people come up with.

    For the mustang auctions; people are giving you the horses for free so you can auction them off and people are paying for them? Do the creators get any sort of compensation out of that or is the auction not really an auction?

    Well, at the moment we're just trying to see if 1 there's enough interest and 2 work out the details.

    One of the details is the auctioned horses > and the first option was the donated horses - there wouldn't be any compensation to the creators (as they were donated)
    The money earned from the auction becomes the prize money to be distributed between the top 5 winners.

    If we have people that want to participate - but no donations, we could "charge" a horse as a "pay to play." - That could easily work as well.

    I think this Makeover could appeal to everyone.... your horse can be entered into any disciplines - you're competing in the same randomized shows as normal - but you're primarily competing against the other participants for points (doesn't matter which disciplines the points come from.)

    And we've got the opportunity to earn a few extra points with pics/stories
    and then we'll throw in some other "randomized points" just to mix things up.

    I'm also open to suggestions if there are other ideas....

    I think I was primarily hoping to get something going that encouraged some player interaction (like the live bidding auction) - this is something that could easily be repeated each year, hopefully something folks would look forward to participating in...


  • Development Committee

    It's a very intriguing idea. The breeds just don't appeal to me is all :p

    It's an interesting concept, I look forward to see how it turns out



  • @Irene-Duarte Thank you Irene your offer is much appreciated.

    Don't do anything just yet while we see if we can get enough interest to make the challenge happen


  • Administrators

    I can attempt to make a few wild horses, I think people need time to plan before they can commit



  • @Blake-Bellanaris
    Sadly, I'm not sure we'd have enough folks wanting to participate .
    Looks like 90 views and 2 upvotes. Unless there's a complete turn around today - we'll bench this idea for a while and just focus on the upcoming Youngstock Live auction. We are still VERY excited about that project and want to do everything we can to make it succeed.

    We are still looking for 1 person to assist the auction house
    and if you'd like to be listed as an agent to bid for others - you can post here or send me a note.

    Wild Horses....
    https://www.instagram.com/wildhorsesofsandwashbasin/
    https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/blackhillswildhorsesanctuary/
    https://www.instagram.com/wild_hoofbeats/



  • I was participating (and I still have one MM to finish) in some Mustang Makeovers on instagram. I really don't understand what you want or need, like the others wrote too. I'm very confused.
    I am doing something with my Mustangs, but they are held private and I don't spend any EC-money on them as they are only a side project for me and they will also not be a part of here. I am interested in Mustangs, but I don't want to make loss, I think you understand what I want to say?
    Also I think the Live Auction might be a good idea, but what's with people living in different time zones? And when they don't have anybody who could place a bid for some reason?

    EDIT: What is with the people who wants to keep their mustang they had and trained? Does it still need to be auctioned off or is there any chance to keep the mustang in the end?



  • I don’t know how it could work but I would love to get a few raw horses (raffle or such), train them (posting updates in blogs, maybe a show or two) and then have them auctioned off.
    It also encourages interactions between players and you don’t have to limit yourself to a specific breed.
    During training the horse doesn’t belong to you and the winnings from the auction can be split between owner (creator), auctioneer and trainer to some percentage.



  • @Anna-Foster

    Recently I was watching a video on youtube - and basically this gentleman's job was to find and train sport horses that he turned around and sold. He had a huge operation and sold horses at a number of different levels - up to Grand Prix ($$Big Bucks) horses. He had grooms and riders for the horses he was training and moving up in the circuit until a buyer was found.

    I've changed up my game play a bit to mimic some of this ....
    I have a number of riders who's primary goal is to "level up" their horses....
    At which point (not sure when - probably around level 4/5) - those horses will be offered for sale (probably in the upcoming WORKING STOCK AUCTION - that auction will be for horses of all ages - and the "classes" will be split according to the horses level/# of titles - maybe starting bids will be $10000 per title? So a grand prix horse would sell for over $100000 - that sounds about right I think?

    I'm also thinking that as those riders level up - maybe they can be offered for sale also -

    So we have some farms that want to show and win at the upper levels - they want upper level horses, upper level riders..... (Horse and rider levels 8-10)
    We have the farms trying to get to that top level - (levels 4-8)
    We have farms that concentrate on training ( levels 1-4) - who then sell those horses depending on level to Amateur competitors (or continue with training to the higher levels (6-7) to be sold to a grand prix level farm.



  • As other members have previously stated, I'm also confused.
    For what I've understood, your goal is to make something big, an anual event on Equus even though unofficial. To make it happen, I would firstly reunite a few people/friends privately, make all of the horses you plan on selling, sort it all up, maybe talk to a few mods and ask for tips, make all rules and goals very clear for everyone to understand, and only then release such a challenge. I understand you want feedback (I've submitted it myself in your form), but as you don't have anything set up it just turns in a bunch of ideas out of place, which doesn't help us to properly understand. Even though this is an online plataform, it still takes a lot of work to make big projects such as this, so it needs to be very well planned and taken care of (which only reminds me to thank our wonderfull staff once again :heart: ).



  • Hmmm

    Well, I think that based on the feedback received we'll save the Mustang Makeover for another time.

    I had thought that we could kind of work together as a group/community to work out the details - but at this point that doesn't seem as easy as what I thought that it would be. I appreciate your input and the offers for donated horses. Perhaps we'll proceed with that idea at a later date.

    Please do keep an eye on our other AUCTION thread - the Live Bidding Auction (@ Aug 16) will proceed as planned.
    Entries for that auction are currently being accepted - details can be found on the auction thread.

    If you have questions regarding the AUGUST YOUNGSTOCK AUCTION - they can be posted here or you can send me a note.



  • Don’t give up. Every effort towards bringing the community together is worth trying.



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    LIVE BIDDING YOUNGSTOCK AUCTION

    Weanlings | Yearlings | 2-3 Year Olds

    to be held approx Aug 15
    (Exact date/time to be determined when we know how many entries we have)

        • ENTRIES CLOSE AUGUST 1 - - -

    Details for the auction can be found on our "official thread" under AUCTIONS
    Horses to be auctioned and advertising (need not be auction related) to be included in the Auction Catalog is now being accepted via email at losthillfarm@gmail.com - Entries close Aug 1, Catalogs are due out about the 7th and Live Bidding Auction is around the 15th

    Please direct all questions and inquiries here.



  • Cancelled due to lack of interest.


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